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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:25:00 -
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If you want to give away free stuff like the ships given out by SOMER create a lottery or some other way yourself so "EVERYONE" can have a chance at winning these ships. SOMER might be popular to those that like to gamble or just have isk to be dumb with but not everyone does. I must of also been an idiot cause I heard there were free blinks to get in on to get a ticket in for the stuff but never did find that so never got a chance to play and possibly win something. (Not going to give them my hard earned isk to play in a 3rd party website for profit)
Transparency for the IWS but other than that I couldn't care less for them getting those ships. Giving ships to fansites that way doesn't bother me at all but like I said up above:
Don't let fansites run promotions like that where you have to spend isk to even have a chance! |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 13:02:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Andski wrote:War Kitten wrote:tl;dr:
A bunch of whiny "adults" complained something in life isn't fair.
CCP puts on hold a cool reward program until definition of fair can be determined.
Whiny adults continue to whine because they are whiners.
Get over it people, life isn't fair, EVE isn't fair.
HTFU.
eve is quite fair, actually: any advantage a player has over any other player is within the reach of any player, with exceptions few and far between you're just trying to be the ~contrarian~ Creating a for-profit gambling website is also within reach of any player. So is organizing a competitive combat league. I'm not being contrary for the sake of contrariness. I truly think people are up in arms over nothing and at the root of most all of the complaints is jealousy in one form or another.
Really the jealous reason is old and tired.. |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 13:11:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:War Kitten wrote:Andski wrote:War Kitten wrote:tl;dr:
A bunch of whiny "adults" complained something in life isn't fair.
CCP puts on hold a cool reward program until definition of fair can be determined.
Whiny adults continue to whine because they are whiners.
Get over it people, life isn't fair, EVE isn't fair.
HTFU.
eve is quite fair, actually: any advantage a player has over any other player is within the reach of any player, with exceptions few and far between you're just trying to be the ~contrarian~ Creating a for-profit gambling website is also within reach of any player. So is organizing a competitive combat league. I'm not being contrary for the sake of contrariness. I truly think people are up in arms over nothing and at the root of most all of the complaints is jealousy in one form or another. There are plenty of other for-profit gambling organisations within EVE, there are plenty of groups who organise pvp events. There are plenty of groups who do not organise events but sponsor them. And so on and so forth. These other ones were not given the same massive boost to what their businesses can offer (i.e. special ships) and were not given direct personal wallet lining gifts (again with special ships). So claiming "other people can do it" seems a bit empty when other people HAVE done it but haven't been treat the same way. To resort to just claiming it is "jealousy" is rather childish. It isn't "jealousy" to expect a level playing field in a game You're right... everyone should get a blue ribbon and a plaque for participation. Trophies for everyone! That would be meaningful.
You are reaching with your trolling now.. |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 13:25:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:War Kitten wrote:You're right... everyone should get a blue ribbon and a plaque for participation.
Trophies for everyone!
That would be meaningful.
That's not what I said at all. Creating strawman arguments just makes you look like a troll. You claimed anyone could do this and get the same 'reward' - and I'm pointing out that others have done these same things and not been treat the same way or been given the same things. That is me demonstrating that your statements are false. Please be mature
Regardless of anyone else doing this in the past or future.. Items should not be given out as a promotion on their site like that.. If they are doing a fanfest or something of the like then CCP can be like sure we'll give you this item(s) to give out to such and such.. but don't give them the ones running the event the items.. Have the event runner tell CCP who won the item at their event and then CCP contract/give the item to the winning person.
Yes there could be some collusion at a fanfest meeting or whatever. But given that this is taking place where the people are actually gathering the likely hood of that is a little smaller because if you screw someone over they could start a mob and burn the place down or you get the crap beat out of you.. |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:37:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:CCP Guard, since you're clearly still actively reading and replying to this thread, what are your thoughts on somers - or indeed any third party CCP may deal with in the future - banning and excluding paying subscribers at their own discretion?
It's no secret that people who share an IP address for example - like family, house mates, internet cafes - are banned from somer and not allowed to fairly take part in this recent give away. Are CCP willing to allow third parties to arbitrarily dictate rules and regulations that EVE players must abide to in order to participate in give aways or other events CCP are helping create/sponsor/etc? We're aware of that concern and it's something we'll have a look at and draw lines around when we sit down with the CSM and map out what our guidelines should be. There are a lot of events that are inaccessible to a large portion of your playerbase for various reasons and we have to look at how all of that plays into the different levels of support we provide.
The only events you speak of that could be inaccessable to a large portion are the different fanfests but this is for a supposed "fansite" (loosely used in SOMER's case). LIke I've said before you can give these "fansites" the free IWS all you want with transparency of why.
You want to run a promotion tho do it yourselves at eveonline.com with some new program that automatically puts everyone into the lottery/whatever way you come up with. Then no one can be left out and you won't have a problem with part of the playerbase being left out like tons of people were out of SOMERs due to many different reasons.. |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 19:21:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:Ok so let me get this right
1. I buy a GTC from somer I get 200 blink credits to spend on the lotteries.
2. I use the blink credits and win in game stuff correct.
3. If I don't want the ship I can get a isk pay out.
4 Real money= blink credits= chance to win somer = prize is in game stuff
Holy **** how is this not RMT. CCP you have a third party exchanging real money for credits to play a lottery and win in game stuff. Who did ccp leave in charge of EVE. Wait that right there is no one at the helm. Now this not going to the CSM is making a lot of sense everyone work on eve is doing there own thing.
CCP Unifex please comeback the ship is sinking again. I know you are trying to carve out your notch at CCP but people are messing with the golden egg. Gogela gave a good long explanation. The short one is this: What you've just described is no different from buying a plex and turning it into in game stuff. The RMT problem is taking isk or in game stuff and turning it back into personal, real life money. That isn't happening here.
Hello Troll and now SOMER alt.. |
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Posted - 2013.11.22 18:55:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:This has yet again got a little out of hand tbh. They few in the community just stir things up AKA trouble causers.
These are just jealous people that threw their dummy out because they didnt get something. Plain and simple.
SOMER do a lot of things for the community, they have free giveaways, promotions etc and in fact they are promoting Eve, even if for their own benefit also.
So why shouldn't CCP give them some rewards, why? I think its good that CCP actually does reward people who stand out in the eve community.
CCP giving away these items, affects me, or you or anyone else in game in NO WAY at all. You are just pretending it does. How is CCP giving away a Scorp going to affect you or me? Its not, not at all. Its just goes in the pot with all the thousands of others ships and items, that don't affect you.
I know some ex Bob guys that have 20,30 T2 BPO's i thought damn, i wish i had those and yes felt a little resentment that i could and would never get them. But will they ever affect my game? no...
Honestly i am tired of seeing this community act like spoilt kids and then CCP has to wipe their asses and then it just spoils the whole thing completely.
They do it to make money, they do the giveaways to make their name known so people go spend money...... (go back to beggining of sentence) |
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